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Frequently Asked Questions:

Q: Are Stainless Rainwater Tanks all stainless steel?

Only 1 or 2 items in the tank are not stainless steel. One is the tank  overflow which is a molded PVC fitting. Our tanks larger than 3m in diameter have a PVC center prop. Some customers insist to have this center prop replaced with a stainless steel prop to ensure there is no contact of water with plastic at all.The tanks are sealed (like all steel rain water tanks) with potable water approved silicon.

Q: How long can I store water in my tank before it goes off?

Provided your tank is clean, mosquito proof and the water is not exposed to light, then the water will last many years even without jeopardizing the drinking quality. This is a qualified statement, assuming your tank is made from stainless steel.

Q: Is its safe to mix town water with rain water?

Strictly speaking, NO. There is hard scientific evidence that chloride used in town water reacts with the organic compounds (e.g. leaf residue) in your tank to form trihalomethanes (TMHs). THM is a known carcinogen (causes cancer)

Q: What can I do to minimize exposure to THM?

There is no simple answer. Firstly, it must be emphasized that water which has not been disinfected (chlorinated) poses a far greater risk to health than disinfectant by-products. Nevertheless, peace of mind and common sense dictate that every possible step should be taken to minimize exposure to THM. Firstly, clean your tank frequently. Fit a first flush device and keep your gutters clean. The ultimate solution would be to use a separate tank for rainwater and town water but of course this would not be a practical solution in many cases. Another alternative would be to fit a SEALED TANK SYSTEM,so your tank will remain absolute clean of any contaminants, for more information vist www.sealedtanksystem.com   

Interestingly enough, many cities in the USA and Canada (Colorado since 1917) replaced chlorine with chloramines. Chloramines produce a significantly lower level of THM when exposed to organic compounds.

Q: Do I require a membrane between my Stainless steel tank and the concrete base?

No, stainless steel is not affected by concrete, unlike other steel tanks.

Q: When I lift the inlet strainer on my tank a cloud of mosquitoes emerges.Where are they coming from? All the mosquito screens on my tank are in perfect condition!

This must be the most frequently asked question, and unfortunately there is no simple answer or solution.Firstly, it must be emphasised that this problem commenced with the introduction of rain water tanks, and is by no means a new problem. The consumption of rain water tainted with "wrigglers" presents no health hazard, but can be easily prevented with the installation of a 20 micron filter after the pressure pump. Ensuring that the tank remains free of mosquitoes, wrigglers and larvae is proving to be more difficult.The assumption that the mossies somehow get through the screen is wrong, "around it" would be the more appropriate term.Most inlet strainers do not make a perfect seal on the tank. This is true not only on steel water tanks, but also on plastic tanks particularly when the sunlight starts to buckle the plastic.A 2-3mm gap between the strainer and the tank seem insignificant, but is plenty big enough to let female mossies  enter the tank and lay eggs.We developed a screwed inlet strainer which seals perfectly and allows no gap between the tank and the strainer. Unfortunately this strainers are custom made and therefore rather expensive. The second way for mosquitoes to enter the tank is much more difficult to seal. Roof guttering will always retain small paddles of water after a rain event. This is the perfect place for female mossies to lay their eggs, which of course are washed into the tank with the next rain.The 0.98mm aperture of the inlet strainer is far to coarse to catch microscopic eggs, which pass without difficulties into the tank to hatch. At the current stand of rain water harvesting technology there is only one accessory available to ensure your tanks remains free of any mosquito larvae and other contaminants. Please visit www.sealedtanksystem.com for more information.

Q: My polyethylene tank has a UV rating of 16,what does it mean?

All polyethylene's are susceptible to degradation upon long term exposure to sunlight.  This deterioration is brought about by chemical changes which occur in the polyethylene as a result of exposure to the ultraviolet  (UV) portion of light.  The poly becomes brittle and loses strength. To slow down this process UV stabilisers are added to the polyethylene. The number indicates the amount of stabiliser added to the poly. For example: UV 4 would mean 4000 hours of continuous outdoor exposure in Florida, before the polyethylene loses 50% of its original strength.  Consequently, UV 16 (this is the maximum amount of stabiliser which can be added) would mean that the poly will last 16000 hours before it loses 50% of its original strength. After this time the poly is spent, and no amount of welding or other repair methods will prolong the service life of your plastic tank.  Currently, there is no way to recycle the spent plastic and this may create a real environmental problem when all the plastic tank will start to fail in the years to come. Numerous tanks which were built with a UV rating of less than 16 are failing now. It is a fair assumption that the UV exposure in Queensland is similar to Florida, if not worse.

Q: I hear comments that plastic tanks leak hormones (estrogen) into the water. Is this true?

We are aware of these rumors but so far scientists failed to uncover  evidence supporting this claim. But it is appropriate to point out in this context, an article published in the Brisbane Courier Mail (dtd 13/03/06) about contaminated water caused by storage in plastic bottles.  The article refers to a study conducted by Dr.William Shotyk, Director of the Institute of Environmental Geochemistry at the University of Heidelberg in Germany. Dr. Shotyk found that a chemical called antimony continously leaches from the plastic bottle into the bottled drinking water. This study is of major concern if you take in consideration that PET (Polyethylene Terepthalate) bottles were considered absolutely safe for over 15 years. (research google:shotyk)The unavoidable conclusion is the question,  Is it only a matter of time before another study determines that water stored in plastic tanks is not as safe as we were made to believe?

Update 25/4/08: Brisbane`s Channel 10 news on the 16/4/08 reported that plastic baby bottles leach chemicals ((bisphenol) into baby formula, bisphenol is linked to various cancers in later life. This evidence is so strong that on the 22/4/08 the Canadian government banned the importation and sales of plastic baby bottles. Other governments consider similar bans. It is difficult to understand that it would take years after the introduction of plastic baby bottles to make such a discovery!!

How long will it take before plastic water tanks are declared unsafe to store drinking water ??

Update 24/10/08: Further scientific evidence questioning the suitability of plastic in the human food chain: click to read a USA Today article. 

Update 6/6/08: There is now hard scientific evidence that water stored in plastic tanks may present a health risk indeed.For more information mail a self adressed envelope to PO. Box 16, Cannon Hill, 4170 requesting the free DVD  "Phthalates (plastisisers), effects on the human endocrine system" 

Q: Is it advisable to chlorinate my tank water?

I am aware that some authorities make recommendations to chlorinate tank water.I have some reservations to this for the following reasons. Firstly, accurate calculations and measurements have to be carried out to ensure the correct amount of chlorine is added to the tank. From my point of view, due to the toxicity of chlorine and the danger in handling it, plus the potential of overdosing, this is no task for the handyman. Secondly, there are  much better and safer products available (Aqua Safe or UV sterilisation) which are more suitable and safe to handle.

Q: I noticed the inside walls of my plastic tank feels slippery and soapy, is this normal?

What you feel is called a "biofilm", not desirable to have in your water tank. A biofilm is a layer of microorganism contained in a matrix (slime layer), which forms on surfaces in contact with water. Biofilms provide a "safe haven" for organism like listeria, e.coli and legionella, where they can reproduce to levels where contamination of the water becomes unavoidable. The best way to remove this contamination is to get your tank cleaned out and the walls washed down with a water blaster. Chlorination of your tank water will only destroy the top layer of the biofilm and it will regenerate. Unfortunately plastic surfaces are most suitable for biofilms to establish, this is one of the reasons why most containers in hospitals are glass or stainless steel.

Q: If there is scientific evidence that plastic (poly) may in fact contaminate the water, why is there no legislation to prohibit the sale of polytanks?

Governments are notoriously slow to respond (exceptions to the rule: the Canadian government which banned the sale of plastic baby bottles days after a relevant study proved that bisphenol leaches into the formula). The main reason can be found in the lobbying power of some very influential industries.  The best example are cigarettes, the link between smoking and  rather serious and terminal diseases has been established decades ago, but tobacco is still for sale. On the other hand, customers are free to make an informed decision. 

Q: Is it safe to drink untreated rainwater?

Opinions are divided but facts speak for themselves. Rainwater has been the only source of water for many decades for our rural and semi-rural neighbours, without any noticeable or recorded effects on their health. Chlorinated town water on the other hand is under strong suspicion to cause bladder and rectal cancer. The Morris study (compilation of ten separate epidemiological studies), (see www.ccwa.com/chloramines.htm) estimates that 9% of all bladder cancers and 15% of all rectal cancers in the USA are caused by chlorinated drinking water. In 1988, the Californian Department of Health study found, that pregnant women with a high exposure to chlorinated drinking water increased the chance of miscarriage from 9 ˝% to 16%.

Also, many people develop an aversion to town water after years of exposure to rainwater. Nature is best again! Rainwater should not be collected close to industrial areas (5 km radius) from timber, asbestos or tarred roofs, nor next to crop fields where areal spray is conducted.

Update12/11/08

The Australian reports on the 11/11/08 on page 6 that following waste water is accepted for "recyling" (reuse) in Brisbane. Medical waste, which may contain viruses and bacteria. Industrial waste containing grease and oil, ammonia, nitrogen, phosphorus,sulphate, chlorine, aluminium, iron,manganese,pesticides, arsenic, lead,mercury,cobalt,zinc and cyanide. For many people in Brisbane, the use of rain water in their household may become much more attractive after the introduction of "treated waste water" into the Brisbane town water supply in 2009. 

 

Q: What size of tank is most suitable for a family of 4?

Our recommendation is to always install the largest tank possible within the restraints of your budget, locality and council by-laws. The Australian family of 4 uses approximately 28,0000 litres of water per year. Half of this water is used in the garden, flushing the toilet, cleaning the car etc. With the installation of 2 - 22000 litre tanks, such a family can be close to be independent from the reticulated town water supply provided that the roof area is at least 200sq meters and most importantly, the gutters are kept clean to avoid any water wastage. It has to be realized that even minor local showers which are irrelevant to dam levels and town water supply will quickly add 4 weeks of water to your tanks. A final consideration should be that a larger tank is more cost-effective. Example, a 1000 L tank may retail for $800.00 which translates to 80 cents of water/liter stored.  The other extreme is the 40,000L tank retailing for $4,398.00 using the same formula. Cost per liter of water stored is 11 cents.

Q: How durable is a plastic tank?

With the introduction of plastic tanks, a whole new industry has been created. Refer to your Yellow Pages to find numerous businesses which specialize in the repair of plastic tanks. The UV rating of your tank gives a fair indication of the expected life span. The first manufactured  plastic tanks had an UV rating of 8 or 10, this tank are failing now. More recent fabricated tanks have a UV rating of 16, which is the maximum possible rating.You can extend the life span of your plastic tank by locating it in a shaded position, or the best solution would be under a roofed area.

Q. What about fire resistance of a stainless steel water tanks?

The only tank that is truly fire proof is a concrete tank. Although a bush fire cannot harm the stainless steel besides making it black, prolonged exposure to extreme temperatures will eventually destroy the seal depending on how much water is in the tank. The seal is replaceable. Plastic tanks are legendary to catch fire themselves in such an emergency. Aquaplate, contrary to what some tank manufacturers state, are most sensitive to temperature over 70 degrees. The plastic coating inside the tank will separate and render the tank useless. Zincalume will perform slightly better than aquaplate, up to about 200 degrees when the zincalume coating will melt. 

Q: Is the taste of rainwater jeopardised by a plastic rainwater tank?

A large beverage manufacturing plant in the North of Brisbane intended to market bottled water in the first half of 2005.  A bottling plant was installed and as buffer storage, 4 x 40,000L plastic tanks were used. The first production run of bottled water did not pass the plant's stringent quality assurance test in respect of the taste.  The project was put on hold until a more suitable stainless steel tank could be sourced. 

Q. Can a stainless steel tank be put in-ground?

The tanks are not designed to be fitted inground, and we have no engineering data to state that inground mounting is permissible.

Q. How do I claim the Council Rebate?

Every Council has their own rules and regulations. Refer to our web-links to access some of the conditions. One hint of advise, numerous customers discovered that to be entitled for the rebate, a plumber has to install and connect the tank to the house.

Q. I’m advised that my new Aquaplate tank requires a "first flush". Why?

During the manufacture of Aquaplate, the consequent rollforming and building of the tank, residue settles on the plastic skin. (Aquaplate =plastic coated steel). The advise to flush the tank seems to be a paradox for the following reason; disregard the fact that you are asked to fill your 22000L tank and then drain that tank which would cost you about $150.00 worth of water. The matter of fact is that, by the nature of design of a corrugated steel tank, the last 1000L (in the case of a 22000L tank), cannot be drained from the tank. It is a fair assumption that all the contaminants that you’d like to remove will remain sitting in the last 1000L in the bottom of the tank. There is no first flush requirement for our stainless steel tanks.

Q. How good is your 25 year/lifetime warranty?

A very sensible question. Prior to answering this question, we would like to draw attention to other 20- 25 year warranties;

In the case of aquaplate, peruse Bluescope’s warranty statement available on this site. An attentive reader will realize that there are numerous conditions required to successfully file a claim.

The warranty conditions with plastic tanks are even more complex. If the warranty would be honored as advertised, there would be no need for any plastic tank repairers to advertise in the Yellow Pages. Whenever there is a change of ownership of a company, which happens frequently, warranties are not carried over from the previous owner. Also, plastic tank warranties generally are not transferable. So, if you buy a property with a plastic tank on it, the warranty would have expired with the new owner.

To come back to the original question, our warranty is only viable for as long as Stainless Rainwater Tanks is in business. Although, we are currently negotiating with a major insurance company to carry the risk of our tanks for 40 years. If this negotiation would be successful, it would be a unique first in the industry. Currently, our warranty is based in the untarnished reputation of 304 stainless steel. Whenever your kitchen sink will rust out, so will our stainless steel tanks.

Q. My Aquaplate Tank developed a leak,can I put a tank liner to overcome this problem?

At first it appears to be an elegant solution to fit a plastic liner into a steel tank.  A more detailed examination reveals a different story.  The purchase and fitting of a liner into a 20,000 L (5,000 Gal) tank may cost up to $1000.00.  To invest this amount of money in a steel tank is not cost effective but worse is to come, the plastic liner will NOT  prevent your steel tank from rusting away internally.  The outcome is, the steel tank will burst open when the rusting progress to the stage that it can no longer support the liner. Sometimes with catastrophic consequences. 

Of course, a plastic liner in a cracked and leaking concrete tank may extend the life of the tank for many years.

Q. Can a hailstorm damage my Stainless Steel Tank?

Heavy hail will dent the roof of the tank, comparable to a hail's damage to a car.  The tank currogation will withstand hail with very minor damage. The usual house and contents insurance should cover such damage.  Our experience shows that insurance companies would generally pay for a new tank.  Of course, the "old, damaged tank" is still perfect for use compared to a hail-damaged car. It may not look the way you like it but it still drives perfectly well. So you may end up with 2 tanks. The alternative would be to call a scrap merchant to collect the tank. Currently (2006) you can expect to collect between $500 and $600 for a 5000 gal . stainless steel tank.

Q. How much water can I harvest from my roof during the year?

A very good question.  The answer cannot be straightforward and some assumptions have to be made to get an indicative figure.  My calculations are on the conservative side, due to different circumstances and location.  Statistics indicate that the Greater Brisbane area has an average annual rainfall of about 1150mm.  I work with 1000mm due to the fact that the higher figure was calculated in 2004 and average rainfall appears to decrease in the last couple of years.  Lets assume that the catchment area (roof) is 300sq meters.  Again, this estimate is on the lower side of the average roof area. 

1000mm x 300 sq m = 300,000L/year

Certainly, a staggering figure. The average household in Brisbane uses about 280,000L/year. Theoretically, if you could catch all the rain during the year, your household would be self-sufficient.  Practically, only under  ideal conditions you will be able to harvest all the rain as it falls.  In the worst case scenario, up to 50% of this water is lost due to overflowing gutters (not cleaned) and clogged up inlet strainers in the tank.  Well maintained (clean) gutters and inlet strainers in your tanks will ensure that only a fraction of this precious resource is lost.    

Q. What type of base is suitable for a Stainless Steel tank?

Our recommendation is always to use a concrete base, for the reason that stainless steel on a concrete base will last as long as your house if not longer. Regardless, we estimate that approximately half of our tanks are placed on crusher dust or sand.  This is acceptable, but care has to be taken that the crusher dust cannot be undermined by water or vermins. A typical example is that the overflow water is allowed to run down on the outside of the tank (in this context it has to be noted that overflow water on the outside of an aquaplate tank will immediately void the Bluescope warrantly). This is no issue with a Stainless Steel tank, but if this water undermines (washes away) the base of the tank and would consequently damage the tank, any warranty claim will be denied.  For this reason, it is appropriate to enclose the crusher dust with sleepers, bricks, besser blocks or similar. It is always a good practice to pipe the overflow away from the tank. Pavers can also be used as a tank base, and provide a good economical base for water tanks.  Note that a crusher dust base is not suitable for our super slim and standard slim series of tanks.

     
     
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